Global Warming Info

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http://www.mrc.org/articles/antarctica-not-melting-ice-levels-record-high

Fred Schnaubelt

FRED SAYS, Scott, Again, what’s your point? Everyone agrees with you that global warming has been going on since the last ice age. It is self-evident to everyone. The only issue — is it anthropogenic (Man-made)? The newest data indicating it is caused by the periodic sun spot cycle is far more persuasive than man-made warming fostered by those who get paid to promote it. Looking at the melting ice caps on other planets adds credibility to it is natural — not man-made. As for fishing grounds, a well preserved fossil forest near the North Pole has been discovered as well as a fishing village and fish fossils in the middle of the Sahara Desert. The earth is alive and experiences constantly changing characteristics. The Royal Navy testified the Artic was melting in 1817, passable waterways for the first time, and more recent U.S. Navy photos of the North Pole show it melted in 1987 and froze solid in 1999. Go slow and tell me again, What’s your point? http://www.john-daly.com/polar/arctic.htm

FRED SAYS,  Facts are facts regardless of source. One pole on earth is shrinking while the other is expanding. Very tiny input errors in computer generated analysis can result in humongous errors across the entire surface of the earth. For the True Believers identified by Eric Hoffer – GIGO! Are human the cause?

SCOTT MCLACLAN SAYS, Fred, Except that the *fact* isn’t factual. The permafrost (defined as the layer of soil at or below the freezing point of water for more than two consecutive years) has been steadily shrinking towards the poles (BOTH poles) for quite some time. As a result, since the surface layer is warming, the ice is melting faster, to the point where we don’t have year round ice. Yes, we do have more of the surface layer of ice, but that layer melts significantly faster than glaciated ice. Plus, there’s a huge difference between the quality and water content of glaciated ice vs surface ice, much like the difference between hardpacked snow and fresh powder. http://goo.gl/VrvyeL
FRED SAYS, The only issue is it anthropogenic (man-made) justifying an international carbon tax? Global Warming means Global (the entire planet) not one polar Cap that periodically expands and contracts with ice as shown in photos over the last 50-100 years. What does your comment on perma-frost have to do with polar ice caps melting on Earth, and also Mars, Jupiter, Pluto and Triton? For those who think SUVs on earth cause Global Warming, the “feeling” is not persuasive. For all those relying on the IPCC reports simply know most of the panelists are not scientists but political appointees that translate the information from scientists for political purposes and money. http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/file/archives/pdf/2007_08_Imprimis.pdf

Antarctica Not Melting: Ice Levels At Record High | Media Research Center Far from disappearing, Antarctic ice levels reached a record high on Sept. 22. Climate alarmists are now being forced to reconcile this evidence with their unquestioning belief in global warming. http://goo.gl/VrvyeL
- Aug 1, 2013 … NASA says the Martian South Pole’s “ice cap” has been shrinking for three ….. the same size, while its SH polar cap has greatly expanded. http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-on-mars.htm

North Pole 1987 North Pole 1999

North Pole 1987        U.S. Navy Photos             North Pole 1999

 

Scott, Global Warming, everyone agrees, has been taking place since the last ice age. The only issue is it anthropogenic (man-made) justifying an international carbon tax? Global Warming means Global (the entire planet) not one pole that periodically expands and contracts with ice as shown in photos over the last 50-100 years.  What does your comment on perma-frost have to do with polar ice caps melting on Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Pluto and Triton? SUVs on earth causing Global Warming, for those who think so, is not persuasive. For all those relying on the IPCC reports simply know most of the panelists are not scientists but political appointees that translate the information from scientists for political purposes  and money.   http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/file/archives/pdf/2007_08_Imprimis.pdf

Antarctica Not Melting: Ice Levels At Record High | Media Research Center

www.mrc.org  Far from disappearing, Antarctic ice levels reached a record high on Sept. 22. Climate alarmists are now being forced to reconcile this evidence with their unquestioning belief in global warming.

Fred Schnaubelt Facts are facts regardless of source. One pole on earth is shrinking while the other is expanding. Very tiny input errors in computer generated analysis can result in humongous errors across the entire surface of the earth. For the True Believers identified by Eric Hoffer – GIGO! Are human the cause?

Antarctica Not Melting: Ice Levels At Record High http://goo.gl/VrvyeL Somebody tell Al Gore that his doomsday global warming scam is a BUST!. – Aug 1, 2013 … NASA says the Martian South Pole’s “ice cap” has been shrinking for three ….. the same size, while its SH polar cap has greatly expanded. http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-on-mars.htm

Scott McLachlan Except that the *fact* isn’t factual. The permafrost (defined as the layer of soil at or below the freezing point of water for more than two consecutive years) has been steadily shrinking towards the poles (BOTH poles) for quite some time. As a result, since the surface layer is warming, the ice is melting faster, to the point where we don’t have year round ice. Yes, we do have more of the surface layer of ice, but that layer melts significantly faster than glaciated ice. Plus, there’s a huge difference between the quality and water content of glaciated ice vs surface ice, much like the difference between hardpacked snow and fresh powder.

 

Scott McLachlan Ummm…. context is everything, Fred. There’s lots of NEW ice, but the permafrost is eroding more and more every year. Of course, using the Media Research Center as a source (as I’ve told you before) is an autofail.

Fred Schnaubelt Facts are facts regardless of source. One pole on earth is shrinking while the other is expanding. Very tiny input errors in computer generated analysis can result in humongous errors across the entire surface of the earth. For the True Believers identified by Eric Hoffer – GIGO! Are human the cause? – Aug 1, 2013 … NASA says the Martian South Pole’s “ice cap” has been shrinking for three ….. the same size, while its SH polar cap has greatly expanded. http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-on-mars.htm